RAK5146 negative SNR level

Hi,

The SNR level received by the RAK5146 module is very bad.
I fixed two LoRa gateways on the roof of my company to compare the reception levels.
An industrial gateway of the Kerlink brand and a home gateway builded with a RAK5146 PiHAT kit and a Rock Pi 4C+ processor card.
Two SEMTECH packet forwarders run with the same configurations on the 2 gateways.
The 2 gateways are equipped with an ISM 868M 6 dBi antenna.
A LoRa sensor placed on my desk emits a LoRa frame in SF12 BW125.
Below are the reception levels of the 2 packet forwarders.

/* Logs Packet Forwarder GTW Kerlink */

[root@Wirnet_08050084 pf]# ./GWFw_pkt_AE | grep 867.00
JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“tmst”:36699996,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“lsnr”:6.2,“rssi”:-97,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAgU7wyt4rTncQKvqUAMfCc=”}]}
JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“tmst”:41775708,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“lsnr”:6.5,“rssi”:-97,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAgV7wwQ+kTJ8969RHgLr00=”}]}
JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“tmst”:46168804,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“lsnr”:6.0,“rssi”:-97,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAgW7wzEQ5uo5nRiMIL+Qyc=”}]}
JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“tmst”:50531436,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“lsnr”:5.5,“rssi”:-97,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAgX7wyGMYJg6FVNsL8KMIQ=”}]}
JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“tmst”:54867740,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“lsnr”:5.5,“rssi”:-97,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAgY7wwLUYymuNJhz9uLnYI=”}]}
JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“tmst”:59315924,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“lsnr”:5.2,“rssi”:-96,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAgZ7wx9feGJ+qGRuXeOSqY=”}]}

/* Logs Packet Forwarder GTW RAK5146 */

root@rock-4c-plus:/opt/eu868_pf# ./eu868_tcp_pkt_fwd | grep 867.00
INFO: radio 0 enabled (type SX1250), center frequency 867000000, RSSI offset -215.399994, tx enabled 1, single input mode 0
JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“jver”:1,“tmst”:5440881,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“mid”: 0,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“rssis”:-92,“lsnr”:-3.5,“foff”:516,“rssi”:-89,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAgU7wyt4rTncQKvqUAMfCc=”}]}
JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“jver”:1,“tmst”:10516599,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“mid”: 0,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“rssis”:-94,“lsnr”:-2.8,“foff”:518,“rssi”:-91,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAgV7wwQ+kTJ8969RHgLr00=”}]}
JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“jver”:1,“tmst”:14909699,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“mid”: 1,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“rssis”:-96,“lsnr”:-5.0,“foff”:519,“rssi”:-91,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAgW7wzEQ5uo5nRiMIL+Qyc=”}]}
JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“jver”:1,“tmst”:19272331,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“mid”: 0,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“rssis”:-95,“lsnr”:-4.8,“foff”:519,“rssi”:-91,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAgX7wyGMYJg6FVNsL8KMIQ=”}]}
JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“jver”:1,“tmst”:23608638,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“mid”: 1,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“rssis”:-96,“lsnr”:-6.0,“foff”:519,“rssi”:-91,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAgY7wwLUYymuNJhz9uLnYI=”}]}
JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“jver”:1,“tmst”:28056828,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“mid”: 0,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“rssis”:-95,“lsnr”:-4.2,“foff”:521,“rssi”:-91,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAgZ7wx9feGJ+qGRuXeOSqY=”}]}

The RAK5146 SNR level are negative !

Why ?

Hello Jean-Francois

Have you tried removing other possible causes? Like swapping antennas between the two devices or double checking the pigtails?
Also, you said they are both at the roof of your company. Can you share a picture of the deployment? Are there any obstacles or EM sources that could affect them differently?

Thank you!

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Hi,
Since my last post I have carried out new tests. I fixed on the roof a RAK7248 gateway to compare the reception levels with the RAK5146 module.

/* Logs PF GTW RAK Wireless RAK7248 WisGate Developer D4H/D4H+/D4HP */
ssh [email protected]
sudo journalctl -u ttn-gateway.service -f -n 500 | grep --line-buffered “867.000”
Jan 20 12:48:15 rak-gateway ttn-gateway[990]: JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“jver”:1,“tmst”:35644384,“time”:“2025-01-20T12:47:04.413053Z”,“tmms”:1421412443413,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“mid”: 0,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“rssis”:-102,“lsnr”:-6.2,“foff”:245,“rssi”:-96,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAiAAwyauCXC9L0Y1zuDi6c=”}]}
Jan 20 12:49:45 rak-gateway ttn-gateway[990]: JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“jver”:1,“tmst”:106175196,“time”:“2025-01-20T12:48:14.943869Z”,“tmms”:1421412513944,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“mid”: 0,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“rssis”:-104,“lsnr”:-7.8,“foff”:245,“rssi”:-97,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAiBAwx3f6X95BbyYD3y2Is=”}]}
Jan 20 12:49:45 rak-gateway ttn-gateway[990]: JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“jver”:1,“tmst”:177652113,“time”:“2025-01-20T12:49:26.420791Z”,“tmms”:1421412585420,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“mid”: 0,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“rssis”:-101,“lsnr”:-4.8,“foff”:244,“rssi”:-96,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAiCAwz6ZPpaV4CAAEBZd8g=”}]}
Jan 20 12:51:15 rak-gateway ttn-gateway[990]: JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“jver”:1,“tmst”:248905263,“time”:“2025-01-20T12:50:37.673945Z”,“tmms”:1421412656673,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“mid”: 0,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“rssis”:-103,“lsnr”:-7.0,“foff”:243,“rssi”:-96,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAiDAwy9YjbSZG7+ouKOyUk=”}]}
Jan 20 12:52:45 rak-gateway ttn-gateway[990]: JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“jver”:1,“tmst”:315100584,“time”:“2025-01-20T12:51:43.869270Z”,“tmms”:1421412722869,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“mid”: 0,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“rssis”:-103,“lsnr”:-6.5,“foff”:242,“rssi”:-97,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAiEAwzKxpUQILYJDQIovBw=”}]}
Jan 20 12:54:15 rak-gateway ttn-gateway[990]: JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“jver”:1,“tmst”:379513138,“time”:“2025-01-20T12:52:48.281828Z”,“tmms”:1421412787281,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“mid”: 0,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“rssis”:-103,“lsnr”:-6.8,“foff”:243,“rssi”:-97,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAiFAwxbjCP2zWh4sWqEMYQ=”}]}
Jan 20 12:54:15 rak-gateway ttn-gateway[990]: JSON up: {“rxpk”:[{“jver”:1,“tmst”:443047034,“time”:“2025-01-20T12:53:51.815727Z”,“tmms”:1421412850815,“chan”:5,“rfch”:0,“freq”:867.000000,“mid”: 0,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF12BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“rssis”:-105,“lsnr”:-8.5,“foff”:244,“rssi”:-97,“size”:20,“data”:“AgAAaAiGAwxPLz/wuWWmJ8V8EW8=”}]}

The same abnormal level of SNR can be observed !

I conclude that there is a serious problem with the radio performance of the RAK Wireless modules…I will test the competition…


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